Iranian AK's

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recon

Discussion Starter · Sep 19, 2010

I know this is a Iraqi section but there close to each other.

Iranian AK's

The Assault rifle type KL-7.62 mm is a gas-operated rifle and capable both of semi-automatic and automatic fire and intended for destroying hostile individual and group also can be in close combat by bayonet and butt stock has become the weapon of all army forces especially suited for the partisan war fares in every weather conditions.The rifle is supplied in various types such as
fixed butt stock (KLS), under folding butt stock (KLF) & side folding butt stock (KLT). Also it should be mentioned that the rifle has a multi-purpose bayonet.

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MPIKMS-72

· #21 · Jan 7, 2011

This is another interesting picture from Iran, and I'm wondering if this could be an Iranian copy of the Chinese Type-56 spiker. Note the quite distinguished 'sharp' profile of the rear sight base and the somewhat 'offset' barrel retaining pin. At least to me, this RSB profile looks 'sharper' than the ordinary Chinese type;

Then compare the above 'sharp' sight base profile to that of the fixed-stock rifle in the Diomil picture; these seem to resemble eachother. Also note that the fixed-stock and the underfolder in the Diomil picture have differently profiled rear sight bases and front trunnions.

Apparently there are several designs produced in Iran, that goes beyond those two in the Diomil pic [different receiver covers, different types of furniture, different rear sight bases, different 'ears' on the front trunnions and most likely also other features].

-Dan-

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MPIKMS-72

· #22 · Jan 7, 2011

Some interesting info regarding the Iranian AKs;

The AK-47 is likely the most infamous rifle in the world, gaining its reputation in nearly every conflict as a powerful and rugged weapon. The original, along with its variants holds the title of being the most produced assault rifle in history, being more then all other rifles combined.

Within the Iranian armed forces it is the main rifle of the Basij, the IRGC as well as specific units with both the regular army and the police. Multiple versions are produced, such as the basic AK-47 model, known locally as the KLS, the folding stock AKS-47, known as the KLF and AKMS (side-folding-stock AKM) known as the KLT. They different versions are produced both with wooden and synthetic stocks. One notable feature over the base soviet models is the addition of an M203 grenade launcher. In addition to this, they still maintain large stocks of older rifles purchased directly.

The most common type is the KLF and AKMS with a wooden handguard, being used by the army and the majority of the IRGC. However the fixed-stock KLS is far from being uncommon. Refurbishment stockpiles with newer rifles is done on a regional and organizational manner, not necessarily according to which regions need it, for instance, the lowest-of-the-low, hardscrabble Basij in Qom are often seen with brand-new rifles while a regular army garrison on the Iraqi border might still be making do with older foreign rifles. Although that is really the beautiful thing about the AK-47, the quality between the rifle that’s brand new and the one that’s been there since the end of the war, isn’t that much.

The models with synthetic material are still uncommon, though are used regularly by the police with only a few being seen in service with the IRGC.
Use by the police is often determined by location, for instance police in Tehran usually carry pistols, or maybe MP-5’s or a rare AK-47, while those in Zahedan carry an AK-47 as part of their regular kit.

I found this a while ago on a forum dealing with the Iranian military.

-Dan-

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CumbiaDude

· #23 · Jan 8, 2011

MPIKMS-72 said:
Thank you for pointing that out, that was news to me.

NP :smile:

Your neighbor's story reminds me of a very similar thing I read in an article talking about the Rhodesian Light Infantry units fighting African guerrillas. The guerrillas were armed with Kalashnikovs, and tended to have less fire discipline, spraying too much and wasting ammo as unintended AA rounds. The RLI units were armed with FALs and laid down more accurate, semi-automatic fire, for greater effect.

rayman1

· #24 · Jan 8, 2011

MPIKMS-72, keep in mind those two different trunnions are both Chinese and just refinished by Iran to be assembled onto their rifles. China used both of those styles on their Type 56 rifles for both the military and commercially made/exported semi-automatic versions.

MPIKMS-72

· #25 · Jan 9, 2011

rayman1 said:
MPIKMS-72, keep in mind those two different trunnions are both Chinese and just refinished by Iran to be assembled onto their rifles. China used both of those styles on their Type 56 rifles for both the military and commercially made/exported semi-automatic versions.

I knew that the Chinese had made both styles on the T-56, but I wasn't aware that the Iranian rifles were assembled from Chinese parts. I had always thought the parts were made locally, since the Iranian rifles are said to be unlicenced copies?

This is what I love about this board, where one can discuss these things and share knowledge.

-Dan-

kirk

· #26 · Oct 19, 2013

MPIKMS-72 said:
Speaking of Iranian AKs; here's an interesting picture showing a female Iranian militia unit of some sorts, armed with what might be those ultra-rare full-auto Iranian or Chinese double underfolders:

Another pic from Iran; perhaps this is one of the KLT rifles? Could of course be Chinese too, but the color of the furniture strikes me as maybe a bit too dark, compared to the usual Chinese Phenolic. It has the typical non-ribbed Chinese receiver cover though [contrary to the ribbed AKM type in the Diomil pictures], as well as a non-threaded muzzle :

-Dan-

Damn those are some ugly looking chicks!

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Elliot308

· #27 · Oct 19, 2013

Love this thread and it's pics.

abukamoon

· #28 · Oct 22, 2013

Nice pictures. I hadn't really thought about Iran's source of small arms. They are certainly capable of producing their own, but I don't remember seeing any AK's said to be made in Iran.

CDALY05

· #29 · Oct 24, 2013

Good stuff,thanks for posting.

Weaponmark

· #30 · Feb 1, 2014

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SA R4

· #31 · Feb 2, 2014

l4mbr3tt4 said:

The famous Iranian Phil Spector brigade!

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Weaponmark

· #32 · Feb 3, 2014

I was thinking this.

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Mr. Scratch

· #33 · Feb 3, 2014 (Edited)

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For a minute there I was all like "What? A photo of an empty parade ground?" I didn't even see those guys!

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rajin-cajin

· #34 · Feb 6, 2014

One from Iraq years ago when I was there. I think the Chi-coms show up in all parts of the world.

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KVL

· #35 · Dec 23, 2017

CumbiaDude said:
Got any pix of this? Is it a copy of the Chinese side-folder?

So it could be a copy of a copy of the original? I love that kinda stuff, it's hilarious. They do that with Chinese missiles and vehicles, too.

I saw a pic of the KLT, and the stock looked to me like it was taken from the EG MpiKMS-72.

Story

· #36 · Oct 23, 2018

Unlike the Chinese, the Iranians have ribbed covers - right?
From Syria, supposedly

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Vlado

· #37 · Oct 23, 2018

yes they are ribbed. I saw a few just like that when I was in Iran.

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Story

· #38 · Oct 23, 2018

Vlado said:
yes they are ribbed. I saw a few just like that when I was in Iran.

Both pics, it looks like the rear trunnion is a flat-back with just one rivet at the top (not two, as in the factory flyer found in this thread).

Slurms MacKenzie

· #39 · Oct 27, 2018

Looks like a Type 68. FSB, gas block, and handguards all look North Korean to me.

Story

· #40 · Oct 27, 2018

That's where it'd be hard to tell from Iranians, since theirs blends a whole slew of features.

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